A couple of weeks ago Plasma Records released Kamal Heer’s new album “Chan Jiha Gabhru”. I prepared the music for this album. It is a full on music heavy album. Still, Kamal Heer’s master voice comes through beautifully. The following is the second video from this album. The song’s title is Mar Gaye Majajne. I also wrote the lyrics for this song. I hope you will enjoy it.
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32 Thaats (Scales) Flipped – Part IV
Here is one last look at creating 32 Thaats by flipping the scales.
The 12 notes of Indian music are:
S, r, R, g, G, m, M’, P, d, D, n, N
As you can see, S and P (1st and 5th) are immovable. Both of these notes have only one permanent position in the scale.
The other five notes have two positions each, lower and upper position or Komal and Tivar position. When we flip a Thaat, we simply change the positions of these five notes. We move the Tivars to Komal position and the Komals to Tivar position.
The all Tivar scale is: S, R, G, M’, P, D, N, S (Kalian) and
The all Komal scale is S, r, g, m, P, d, n, S. (Bhairavi)
The entire secret to understand this theory lies in understanding these two scales. If one scale is made by lowering a certain note in Kalian, in essence, its flipped Thaat is made by making the same note Tivar in Bhairavi.
In the following table, I have written the Flipped Thaats opposite of each other. Notice how the positions of these five notes (R, G, M, D and N) are swapped. Then there is also an interactive flash movie below to visualize these notes on a keyboard.
Thaat
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Scale
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flip
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Scale
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Thaat
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Vachaspati
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S,R,G,M’,P,D,n,S
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S,r,g,m,P,d,N,S
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Dhenuka
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Latangi
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S,R,G,M’,P,d,N,S
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S,r,g,m,P,D,n,S
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Natakpirya
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Rishavpirya
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S,R,G,M’,P,d,n,S
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S,r,g,m,P,D,N,S
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Kokilpirya
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Dharamvati
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S,R,g,M’,P,D,N,S
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S,r,G,m,P,d,n,S
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Bakulabharan
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Hemvati
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S,R,g,M’,P,D,g,S
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S,r,G,m,P,d,N,S
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Bhairav or Malavgaud
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Sahinder Madhyam
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S,R,g,M’,P,d,N,S
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S,r,G,m,P,D,n,S
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Chakarvak or Ahir Bhairav
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Shanmukhpirya
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S,R,g,M’,P,d,n,S
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S,r,G,m,P,D,N,S
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Suryakant or Anand Bhairav
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Gamanpirya or Marava
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S,r,G,M’,P,D,N,S
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S,R,g,m,P,d,n,S
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Asavari
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Rampirya
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S,r,G,M’,P,D,n,S
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S,R,g,m,P,d,N,S
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Kirvani
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Kamvardhani or Pooravi
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S,r,G,M’,P,d,N,S
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S,R,g,m,P,D,n,S
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Kafi or Kharharpirya
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Namnarayani
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S,r,G,M’,P,d,n,S
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S,R,g,m,P,D,N,S
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Gauri Manohari
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Swaranangi
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S,r,g,M’,P,D,N,S
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S,R,G,m,P,d,n,S
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Charukeshi
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Shadvidhmargani
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S,r,g,M’,P,D,n,S
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S,R,G,m,P,d,N,S
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Sarsangi
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Shubh Pantuvarali or Todi
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S,r,g,M’,P,d,N,S
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S,R,G,m,P,D,n,S
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Khamaj or Harkambhoji
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Bhavpirya
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S,r,g,M’,P,d,n,S
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S,R,G,m,P,D,N,S
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Bilaval or Shankrabharan
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Bhairavi
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S,r,g,m,P,d,n,S
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S,R,G,M’,P,D,N,S
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Kalian
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32 Thaats (Scales) Flipped – Part III
Finally, here is the same illustration explained in plain text:
1. Kalian is the first Thaat in this system. All notes in Kalian are in their upper position or are Tivar. Kalian’s notes are: S, R, G, M’, P, D, N, S.
2. Lowering the seventh (N Komal) in Kalian creates ‘Vachaspati’ mail or Thaat. Vachaspati is S, R,G,M’, P, D, n, S. In this Thaat, no suwar is in perfect harmony (4th or 5th) with the seventh.
3. Flipping Vachaspati gives us Dhenuka Thaat. Dhenuka is: S, r, g,m, p, d, N, S. Again, the Seventh or Nishad of Dhenuka has no Samvadi suwar.
4. Lowering the sixth (Dhaivat) in Kalian Creates Latangi. Latangi is: S, R, G, M’, P, d, N, S.
5. Flipping Latangi makes it Natakpirya. Natakpirya is S, r, g, m, P, D, n, S. There is no Samvadi of Dhaivat in Natakpirya.
6. Lowering Dhaivat and Nishad in Kalian gives us Rishavpirya. Rishavpirya is: S, R, G, M’, P, d, n, S. Rishavpirya lacks a Samvadi suwar for its Gandhar.
7. Flipping Rishavpirya gives us Kokilpirya. Kokilpirya is: S, r, g, m, P, D, N, S. Dhaivat has no Samvadi note in Kokilpirya.
8. Lowering Gandhar or third in Kalian creates Dharamvati. Dharamvati is: S,R,g,M’, P,D, N, S.
9. The opposite of Dharampati stands Bakulabharan. Bakulabharan is: S, r, G, m, P, d, n, S.
10. Lowering Gandhar and Nishad in Kalian gives us Hemvati. Hemvati is: S, R, g, M’, P, D, n, S.
11. Thaat Malavgaud is on the flip side of Hemvati. Malavgaud’s notes are: S, r, G, m, P, d, N, S. Thus, Malavgaud is current Bhairav Thaat of Hindustani music.
12. Lowering Gandhar and Dhaivat in Kalian gives birth to Sahinder Madhyam. Which is: S, R, g, M’, P, g, N, S.
13. Thaat Chakarvak is the flip side of Sahinder Madhyam. Chakarvak is same as Ahir Bhairav, the notes are: S, r, G, m, P, D, n, S.
14. When Gandhar, Dhaivat and Nishad or third, sixth and seventh are komal in Kalian, it becomes Shanmukhpirya Thaat. Shanmukhpirya’s notes are: S, R, g, M’, P, d, n, S.
15. Flipping Shanmukhpirya creates Suryakant or Anad Bhairav. The notes are: S, r, G, m, P, D, N , S.
16. Lowering just the second or Rishav in Kalian makes it Marva Thaat. Marva is: S, r, G, M’, P, D, N, S. Marva is also known as Gamanpirya Mail of Carnatic music.
17. Flipping Gamanpirya makes it Asavari. Asavari’s notes are: S, R, g, m, P, d, n, S.
18. Lowering Rishav and Nishad in Kalian creates Rampirya Thaat. Rampirya is: S, r, G, M’, P, D, n, S.
19. Flipping Rampirya gives us Girvani. Girvani is S, R, g, m, P, d, N, S. This can also be called Adana Thaat.
20. Lowering Rishav and Dhaivat in Kalian makes it Poorvi or Kamvardhani. The notes are: S, r, G, M’, P, d, N, S.
21. Kafi Thaat or Kharharpirya is the flip side of Kamvarshani. The notes are: S, R, g, m, P, D, n, S.
22. Lowering Rishav, Dhaivat and Nishad make it Namnarayni. Namnarayni is: S, r, G, M’, P, d, n, S.
23. Gauri Manohar is the flipped version of Namnarayni. Gari Manohari’s notes are: S, R, g, m, P, D, N, S.
24. Lowering Second and Third or Rishav and Gandhar in Kalian makes it Sawarnangi. Sawarnangi is: S, r, g, M’, P, D, N, S.
25. Thaat Charukeshi takes shape when we flip Sawarnangi. Charukeshi is: S, R, G, m, P, d, n, S.
26. When we lower Rishav, Gandhar and Nishad in Kalian, we create Shadvidhmargani thaat. Pronounce it Shad-Vidh-Mar-Gani. Shadvishmargani’s notes are: S, r, g, M’, P, D, n, S.
27. Thaat Sarsani takes shape by flipping Shadvidhmargani. Sarsangi is: S, R, G, m, P, d, N, S.
28. Lowering Rishav, Gandhar and Dhaivat in Kalian creates Shubhpantuvarali or Todi Thaat. The notes are; S, r, g, M’, P, d, N, S.
29. Flipping Todi makes it Khamaj or Harkambhoji. Khamaj’s notes are: S, R, G, m, P, D, n, S.
30. Lowering 2nd, 3rd, 6th and 7th (r, g, d, n) in Kalian creates Bhavpirya Thaat. The notes of Bhavpirya look like this: S, r, g, M’, P, d, n, S.
31. Our modern natural scale Bilaval is the flipped version of Bhavpirya. Bilaval is also known as Shankrabharan mail in the southern music. The notes of this Thaat are: S, R, G, m, P, D, N, S.
32. Now the final thaat has all five movable notes in the lower position. When we lower Rishav, Gandhar, Madhyam, Dhaivat and Nishad in Kalian, it creates Bhairavi Thaat. So if Kalian is all Tivars, then Bhairavi is all Komals. Flipping Bhairvi takes us back to our number one Thaat Kalian. Bhairavi’s notes are: S, r, g, m, P, d, n, S.
32 Thaats (Scales) Flipped – Part I
I am sure that this post will prove to be the most interesting post for advance students of Indian Music. As we have discussed earlier, the ‘Ten Thaat System’ does not fully describe the scope of Hindustani scales. According to the definition of a Thaat, a Thaat is a scale of seven notes that uses at least one instant of each and every note. That leads us to the 32 Thaat System. 32 Thaats are essential to find all theoretical Raags of Northern and Southern Indian music.
Now, how do we find these 32 Thaats. The formula is purely mathematical. That turns many people off from even touching the subject. However, there are a number of ways to illustrate this formula so it would make perfect sense to all musicians.
In this post, we are going to find 32 Thaats by flipping the scales. I have been talking about Thaat flipping in the last few posts. So by now you must have a very good idea what that is all about.
According to the Thaat Flipping theory, the first scale is Kalian. Kalian looks like this:
S,R,G,M,P,D,N or
Tone, Tone, Tone, Semitone, Tone, Tone, Semitone.
In Kalian, all notes are in their upper position. Or, we can say that all notes are Tivar. Now it is just matter of lowering (making them Komal) the notes systematically to get 32 Thaats.
In the following illustration:
1. First, starting from the top (Nishad), we lower one note to get a scale.
2. Then we flip that scale (swap the Vikrat notes). The Komals become Tivars and the Tivars become Komals.
3. We continue to add notes downwards to find all possible combinations and flip each Thaat to reveal its counterpart.
Remember, there are only five notes in Indian scale that have two positions. These notes are: R, G, M, D, N. Whatever notes are ‘Komal’ in the original Thaat, they should be ‘Tivar’ in the flipped Thaat.
Play with the following interactive infographic, by clicking the ‘Next’ button. In the next post I will describe these Thaats in plain text. Enjoy.
[iframe width=”100%” height=”300″ src=”https://www.sangtar.com/canvas/170202-flip-thaats_Canvas.html”].
Thaat Flipping – Basics
There are 12 notes in Indian Saptak (septave). Two out of these twelve have only one instance. These are ‘Sa’ and ‘Pa’ or the first and the fifth. All other notes have two instances, lower and upper or Komal and Tivar. Here are these twelve notes written as they appear in the Saptak.
Sa, Pa and all Tivar notes are capital, the Komal or lower instances of 5 movable notes are shown in the lower case:
S, r R, g G, m M, P, d D, n N.
Now, here are the notes of Bilaval Thaat (Natural Scale):
S, R, G, m, P, D, N
In Bilaval, the four out of five movable notes (R, G, M, D and N are movable notes as they can have two instances) are Tivar or are in upper position. Only Madhyam or M or the fourth is in its lower position. Now, let’s swap the positions of all notes in Bilaval.
Thus this:
S, R, G, m, P, D, N
will become
this: S, r, g, M, P, d, n
The new Thaat has Sa, Komal Re, Komal Ga, Tivar Ma, Pa, Komal Dha and Komal Ni. Which Thaat is it? Moreover, how many Thaats in the current “Ten Thaat System†comply with this system?
Write the 10 Thaats down and swap the Komals with Tivars. Let’s see what you get.
I will post the answers to these questions in the next post.
Back from Europe
Hello everyone,
I am back from our European tour. As I am getting back into my old schedule, I am going to post some videos for you. Here is the second video from Manmohan Waris’s Dil Nachda Album. Lyrics are by Mangal Hathur, Video director is Azim Parkar and music is by yours truly. I hope you will like it.
Moorshanas to Thaats Part II
Art changes with time. Indian music has changed too. No one should expect today’s music to comply with the Vedic rules. However, we must also keep in mind that the change in Indian music was not natural and gradual. We had lost our old ways for a while. Now we have found the old treasures again. We can understand them and learn from them. We don’t have to change our music, but we can definitely benefit from it.
The Vedic music is music of thought and logic. It cannot be learned without knowing the theory of music. In the last few centuries, the Indian music has become a practical art. Many artists who are the torch bearer of Hindustani music have no formal training of music theory. That has limited the scope of our music. Art of music is an aural display of math and physics.
According to Muslim Ustads, one can only be real musician when one has acquired three qualities:
a. Aadat
b. Jigar
c. Hisab
Same things have been said in the scriptures. One without the true knowledge of music, cannot do anything for the advancement of the art. To invent something new, one must know what already has been invented. Thus, although we may not go back to a system with Moorshanas and Grams, but we need to know them to take our current music to the next level.
Vedic music has given us tools and theories about every aspect of music. We have to find ways to see how that can apply to our contemporary styles. It is the most elaborate system of “Svara and Suptak”. We will keep talking about these aspects of music in the future posts. Here I would like to talk a little about Moorshanas and Thaats.
Today, the original Grams have been gone. The Grams are now known as ‘scale tuning’. Their power to change the Raags has been diminished. The introduction of 12 notes has also merged all Moorshanas into one octave. The Thaat theory is the only theory that can properly describe the Indian music today. Although the Moorshana theory is still essential to describe the scales on a flute and it also comes in handy when transposing a Thaat. This theory will live on in the form of Modal music.
The Thaat system is here to stay. But is it working as it is?
The answer is no, the 10 Thaats of Indian music are not enough to describe all the existing Raags. This theory was the brain child of a handful of musicologists of the 20th century. Not everyone in the field has accepted it. Moreover, the ones who have, are struggling with describing the hundreds of Raags in the limited number of parent scales.
The real number of Thaats of Indian music should be 32. The Southern music has 72 Thaats. That theory is not practical for Northern Indian music, where the notes are fixed to only two states, lower and upper (komal and tivar).
Most musicologists today agree that just like the western scale, the 12 notes of Indian music are made of 7 natural and 5 Vikrat or ‘moved’ notes.
Modern Hindustani notes are:
1. Sa
2. Re
3. Ga
4. Ma
5. Pa
6. Dha
7. Ni
And, modern Hindustani scale is:
1. Sa
2. Re Komal
3. Re
4. Ga Komal
5. Ga
6. Ma
7. Ma Tivar
8. Pa
9. Dha Komal
10. Dha
11. Ni Komal and
12. Ni
According to the Thaat theory, a Thaat must have all seven notes. Therefore, there are 32 Thaats in the Hindustani music. Here is an interactive look at these Thaats. Please use the “next” button to see the all 32 scales. The ten popular Thaats have been listed as they appear:
[iframe width=”100%” height=”300″ src=”https://www.sangtar.com/canvas/170204-32-thaats.html”]
The interactive animation above lists the Thaats in the following order:
1. Thaats with only one Vikrat note
2. Thaats with two Vikrat notes
3. Thaats with three Vikrat notes
4. Thaats with four Vikrat notes and
5. Thaat with all five Vikrat notes
And the count starts from the top and goes downwards.
Among many popular theories to categorize the 32 Thaats, one is known as ‘Thaat Flipping’. We will talk about that theory next.
Moorshanas to Thaats – Part I
Today, there are 10 Thaats in Hindustani music.
The questions often asked by the students of Hindustani music discussed in our lat post are:
1. Can one categorize 56 Moorshanas into 10 parent scales (Thaats).
2. Are there any equivalent Moorshanas for Bhairav, Poorvi, Todi and Marva thaat?
3. Can one define 12 notes of an octave through the Sharuti system to establish all the Thaats?
Answer to all the above is simple; no.
If no, then what happened?
How did we go from one system to the other, which are not compatible with each other?
Answer to that question is not so simple. The first and foremost factor is history of India. Second is the influence of charismatic musicologist, who more than once changed the path of Hindustani music with there personal views.
When India became a Muslim empire, the foreign emperors (and their administrators) brought their own entertainers with them. Thousands of musicians from Persia and Middle East arrived in India. Their music was based on 12-note octave and they used ‘Mukam System’ to categorize the scales. For the longest time there was no integration between two types of music. When the time arrived, original Indian music had two set backs.
1. It did not have royal sponsorship.
2. Newcomers were not ready to grant higher or equal status to the arts of a defeated nation. This notion did not just affect the music. It reflected in all types of arts (builidings, paintings etc.)
The tide slightly changed when a new generation of Persian musicians was born in India. Regardless of their religious beliefs or political loyalties, they were Indians. It was their motherland. Many of them were not comfortable with the notion that they should play a foreign style of music. Hazarat Amir Khusro is the most influential musicologist of this era. He took the task of making the popular music ‘all Indian’ on him. Amir Khusro was a brilliant musician and enjoyed support of five different emperors. Although it was believed that he was fully versed in both types of music, but now musicologists and historians agree that his knowledge of Indian music was limited. Rather than spending a lifetime to understand the secrets of Moorshana and grams, he classified the known Rāgas in Mukam system. This turned a page in the history of Indian music. Seeds of Mail System or Thaat system were sown.
For four hundred years, music historians and musicologist have spent their lives justifying that both systems were essentially the same. The modern names of Southern Indian notes are the prime example of far reaching effects of this misunderstanding. Modern thinkers know that regardless of Ramatyas justifications, these names are not compatible with the Gram system. The Carnatic music is not in the scope of this blog so I will not go into details on this subject. However consequences of these actions were severe, before that time India never had two music systems. There was only one Indian music. In essence they still are the same. But in this era of redefining everything, Northern music faired a little better. It came out richer and better than ever before.
The second influential person in the modern history of Indian music was Pundit Vishnu Narayan Bhatkhande. Rather than taking a scientific approach to Thaat creation, he divided the popular Raags into 10 Thaats. Here again historian disagree. Some think that all his invetions were actually not his but result of his Guru’s lifetime research. Which even Pundit V N B himself admits. Regardless of the origin of his doctrins, he is the face of modern Hindustani Music theory and his contributions and their effect on the Hindustani music is undeniable.
The prime motive to choose only ten Thaats was to keep the system simple. In his opinion the ten Thaats were sufficient to cover all three types of Raag-scales. You have seen these three categories in the Time Theory post.
1. Raags With Komal Re and Dha
2. Raags with Shudh Re and Dha
3. Raags with Komal Ga and Ni
Read more about this theory here.
After the Independence (August 15,1947), Hindustani musicians and musicologists enjoyed a much more open and welcoming environment. New projects of translating the ancient scriptures began. An open dialogue between the new and the old started. For the first time in the history of our music, researchers could share their ideas globally with all Hindustani musicians. They could speak their mind without worrying about any royal reprecussions. The walls started to come down. The knowledge hidden in the corners of remote temples, houses, asharams, libraries, digs and hearts started to merge. There are so many great people on both sides of the border (India and Pakistan) who have done a great deal of service to Hindustani music in the last 60 years.
Achayria Brihaspati is definitely the torch bearer of this new era. He demonstrated the old and new and helped the new generation of musicians to understand the essence of Indian music.
Although all ancient styles of singing and performing are lost, the practice of performing Indian music never really changed. All current musical styles have their roots in the ancient styles. The progression of change is natural.
The Mughal era proved to be the most effective era in the history of Hindustani Music. This was a time of peace and prosperity in the middle India. Art flourishes in such periods. This was the time when Sanskrit reciting Brahmans could sit and share ideas with their Muslim Gurus and Students. Mian Tansen is the most famous vocalist of this time. From his drupads, it is obvious that he was well versed in the old Moorshana System and the new Mukam system.
Acharya Brihaspati considers today’s Ghazal Performers the same as the Gadharavas of the ancient India. In Ghazals, the words and notes are both equal. A ghazal writer is as important as the musician who composes it. In ancient India these two aspects of musical performance were known as Dhatu and Matu.
Punjabi Virsa 2007 – The European Tour
Three of us (Manmohan Waris, Kamal Heer and myself) are again taking the ‘Punjabi Virsa’ on the road. Our European tour, ‘Punjabi Virsa 2007’ starts on 26th of August with an open-air show at Alton Towers England. From there, we will visit Italy, Greece, Austria and Scotland and finish the tour back in England. I hope to see you all at the concerts. Bring lots of enthusiasm and I promise you that all your expectations will be exceeded.
Alton Towers Theme Park,
Staffordshire, UK August 26th 2007 More information and tickets: http://www.r33ce.com/ or 07932 994 861 |
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Parisos Stadium,
Athens, Greece September 1st, 2007 More information and tickets: 697 252 6807 |
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Pala Brescia Concert Hall,
Brescia, Italy September 2nd, 2007 More information and tickets: 329 879 6966 |
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Royal Concert Hall,
Glasgow, Scotland September 4th, 2007 More information and tickets: 07958 513 487 |
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Reggio Emilia,
Reggio Emilia, Italy, September 8th, 2007 More information and tickets: 328 409 2421 |
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San Felice Circeo,
Latina, Italy. September 9th, 2007 More information and tickets: 329 466 3666 |
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Wembley Arena,
London, UK September 15th, 2007 More information and tickets: 07958 513 487 |
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Woodville Hall,
Gravesend, UK September 16th, 2007 More information and tickets: 07958 513 487 |
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Vienna,
Langenfeld gasse 13-15, 1120 Wien(Vienna), Austria. September 14th, 2007 More information and tickets: 699 1946 8540 |
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Frankfurt,
Germany. September 21st, 2007 More information and tickets: |
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Athena Concert Hall,
Leicester, UK September 22nd, 2007 More information and tickets: 07958 513 487 |
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Civic Hall,
Wolverhampton, UK September 23rd, 2007 More information and tickets: 07958 513 487 |
Please note that Plasma Records has no plans to release any concert from this tour on DVD. Below is the schedule of this tour. If there is any change, I will try to correct it as soon as possible. For more up to date information, please visit Plasma Records web page at www.plasmarecords.com
Building a Bridge between the Old and the New
Today’s Indian music is based on the Thaat system, which is a derivative of Mukam System (Persian). Today’s natural scale is not the same as the original ancient natural scale.
The ten Thaats of modern Northern music are not able to cover 56 Moorshanas of Vedic music. And, there are scales (Thaats or Mails) and Raags in Indian music today that do not follow Bharat’s doctrine.
The questions often asked by the students of Hindustani music are:
1. Can one categorize 56 Moorshanas into 10 parent scales (Thaats)?
2. Are there any equivalent Moorshanas for Bhairav, Poorvi, Todi and Marva thaat?
3. Can one define 12 notes of an octave through the Sharuti system to establish all the Thaats?
4. is there any provision in Gram and Moorshana system to have an interval bigger than 4 Sharuties (such as Re komal to Ga Shudh in Bhairav or an interval of 3 semitones)?
Answers to all the above questions are; no, no, no and no.
Then what happened?
How did we go from one system to the other, which are not compatible with each other?
There is no simple answer. In essence, the practice of music did not change as much as its interpretation has. We need to understand both the old and new and then build a bridge to use the best of both worlds.
Next few posts will address this very issue.
If you have been following this blog, I hope it has widened your horizons. This blog is not about today’s headlines. It is about the ancient art of music. The very first article still stays equally relevant as the very last one. Do not forget to revise the old articles to keep the information fresh. Only revisions can turn a piece of information into knowledge, and without knowledge, there is no wisdom!